On Monday, we saw volatile trades within a 200 point range.
Yesterday, it was more of the same but the range was reduced to 118 points. There was a sudden big down move at 3:00 pm which succeeded in keeping NIFTY on the negative side for the day. It was a classical bear trap. Just few minutes ago, NIFTY was near the high point of the day and came tumbling down. It is such situations which are impossible to explain. Anyway, explanations do not make money.
This fall of 47 points did nothing for us.
ZEEL was among the big gainers for the day. TATASTEEL went very high and then cooled some but damage has been caused to the option value. IDEA too conquered its downtrend for the day which was not good for us. Only SBIN among our trades made slight improvement.
Such days happen. We have to take them in our stride.
This is the position as on October 09.
From a gain of Rs. 168000 we have come down to Rs. 149000 in these two days. Let us remember that all profits are notional and all losses are real. Status can change really fast in option trades.
Last night US market closed flat. But we see Asia in green this morning.
SGX NIFTY is up 32 points. NIFTY is likely to open positive. But that was the case yesterday as well. So the reality is that we do not know which way the market will go. Same with our trades. We stay with the trades with conviction that these were entered with some conviction and those reasons have not gone away.
New Trade :
It is becoming very difficult to spot a good trade because of high volatility.
Premiums in volatile stocks are at such high levels that it would be very difficult to squeeze out some profit. The conventional market wisdom about Option Buyers not making money apparently was the outcome of such situation where traders paid very high premiums and saw them vanishing as the days went by.
For this trade, I am not going for very high volatility but expect that the trend will make the trade good.
ITCย is down 12.59% over the 30 day period while NIFTY is down by 9.94%.
Over last 5 trading sessions, the stock price has moved lower by almost 10%.
We do not go for a very far away option but stay close to the current price.
Last traded price for PUT 260 was Rs. 3.90.
With market likely to open positive, there is a chance to get this Option for around Rs. 3.50.ย Any price between Rs. 3.50-4.00 is fine depending on the movement of the stock price.
Trade cautiously, trade profitably.
Disclaimer:ย This post and examples are for teaching purpose only and are not meant as advice/suggestion to trade in these stocks. Trading in Futures and Options can lead to big losses and should be done with appropriate knowledge and advice only. Mentioning the stocks here does not imply that I have a trading position or likely to take a trade in these stocks.
Comments
Saket October 10, 2018 at 8:39 am
“TATAMOTORS went very high and then cooled”. Please correct the typo. It should be TATASTEEL
Replyadmin October 10, 2018 at 9:03 am
Thanks Saket. It is corrected.
ReplyRajan October 10, 2018 at 10:44 am
It’s 2018 sir ๐ not 2008 hehe ๐
Replyadmin October 10, 2018 at 11:01 am
Enjoy the day of sunshine. There is no point in getting elated by NIFTY. We have to see how it helped our account.
Cheers.
ReplySaket October 10, 2018 at 11:22 am
Pramod-ji, I think Rajan is pointing out to the title of today’s article which mentions “October 2008” instead of “October 2018” ๐
ReplyRajan October 10, 2018 at 3:13 pm
Bilkul ji ๐
ReplyRajan October 10, 2018 at 3:14 pm
No offence, Pramod ji ๐
Replyadmin October 10, 2018 at 5:06 pm
It is okay.
ReplyCheers.
Arjun October 10, 2018 at 2:07 pm
SBI??
Replyadmin October 10, 2018 at 5:06 pm
Seems to have gone wrong.
ReplyBetty October 10, 2018 at 2:26 pm
Sir is it right time to buy SBI 240 pe more?
ReplyAnand Kulkarni October 10, 2018 at 3:17 pm
Sir, in case of Indbullhsg in last month, the no of contracts dwindled to 36, 15, 81, 28- last day. How can you sell the put of Rs.222.55 if there are no buyers
ReplyOr in such case you do nothing and automatic sharing off takes place.
Could you pl explain
Jay October 10, 2018 at 3:31 pm
Bought SBIN 240 PE today @1.2 based on your suggestion sir. Trading in Options for the first time. Let’s see how it goes
Replyadmin October 10, 2018 at 5:04 pm
My suggestion was two days ago and at a higher price. Today the dynamics of the underlying have changed dramatically. This put does not have much of a chance this month but stranger things have happened in the past
ReplyCheers.
admin October 10, 2018 at 5:05 pm
I had exited a little earlier when enough trades were happening. One has to place the order at appropriate price. Usually the trade goes through.
Replyamit October 10, 2018 at 3:34 pm
I brought SBI 6 LOTT ON AVERAGE OF 2.10/-
Replydev October 10, 2018 at 6:38 pm
mind you ,SBI has a history of ditching us .
ReplyRahul October 10, 2018 at 5:29 pm
Usually, stock prices combined with huge volumes is a good sign of trend strengthening. In our case of SBI and many other stocks, I see that the surge in price is not backed up with strong volumes. This usually means, weak hands are behind the stock’s price surge. I am still holding SBI 240 PE and think it will be following the larger trend in this month. As always, premiums are eroding, so have to watch what the market will give.
Replyadmin October 10, 2018 at 9:57 pm
The market is highly volatile. If it can go up 160 points one day, it can come down by same number tomorrow. Be watchful.
ReplyThese are interesting times.
Cheers.
Manas Kumar October 10, 2018 at 8:31 pm
ZEEL results came after market hours. Should affect our trades in a positive way.
ReplyRajesh October 10, 2018 at 8:37 pm
Hi Pramod Ji,
ReplyWould there be any long unwinding in ZEEL considering the fact that the results are out and it has just met or has not met expectations. The PCR is 1.2 and there is strong support at 400. So would buying 420 or 440 PE be a good option to buy. I would also look into the pre-open market tomorrow to decide.
Thanks,
Rajesh
admin October 10, 2018 at 9:55 pm
It all depends on the market. We have seen stocks going up after bad results and tanking after good results.
ReplyWe will know it tomorrow.
Cheers.
pghosh October 10, 2018 at 8:40 pm
What is the target for ITC PUT 260?I have bought today @2.75.
Replyadmin October 10, 2018 at 9:53 pm
We do not set targets in profit. It is for the market to give. Loss is fixed which is the premium paid.
ReplyCheers.
Ravi kumar October 11, 2018 at 7:13 am
World markets have fallen like deck of cards overnight !!
Reply